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Apr 20, 2009,13:54 PM
 

Hi MTF,

this is indeed an extremely interesting watch.

As far as I could find out, 22 of these watches were supplied in 1943 by A.Lange to the Waffen-SS, a special forces unit known in first place for their cruelty and inhumanity but also for weapon development. These watches are 65mm in diameter as opposed to the 55mm of the "normal" B-Watches.

It seems they were used by a "Messbatterie" (I cannot translate that term, but it describes a military unit designated to do the measurements and calculations required to guide the fire of a artillery battery) in Peenemünde during the development of the V-Missiles in WWII. The "M-B" on the dial is the short form of "Messbatterie".

These watches seem to have been used together with a device called a mirror sextant for tracking the flight paths of the V-missiles during testing. Obviously exact time, that could only be read though a mirror while using the device, was necessary to read this mirror sextant. Maybe crabman could help me with some details here?

Another special thing about this watch is that that is  features 1/5 second markings are made of luminous paint. This was necessary for the intended use of the watch and is  at the same time reason why the dial diameter was increased to 65mm.

And there is even one more interesting point about the sample of the watch exposed at the museum: The marking in the center of the upper half of the dial is almost unreadable while the rest of the dial is ok. We might safely assume that the marking was deliberately removed - maybe even by the museum - because it read "W-SS" and showed the logo of the Waffen SS. Today in Germany it is prohibited to publicly display this logo. This also applies  to many other symbols of the nazi regime.

Best regards and read you,
Martin

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Some great Easter holiday at Dresden and Glashütte - Part II

 
 By: stromer : April 19th, 2009-13:31
Time now to take a stroll over to the Watch Museum, … ...passing by the well known neighbors, … … visiting the cosy little NOMOS shop in the house where Ferdinand A. Langefounded the Glashütte watch industry in 1845, … … and taking a break in one of Glash...  

Thanks again, Martin!

 
 By: dxboon : April 19th, 2009-15:58
I enjoyed your entire report, parts 1 and 2, immensely. Looks like you partook of great watches, pastries, and scenery during your trip! Cheers, Daos

thank you....

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 19th, 2009-17:16
for the second part. Both make me looking forward to my visit there cheers

Very nicely done-Thank you! [nt]

 
 By: =RWK= : April 19th, 2009-21:42
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Superb post, Martin

 
 By: amanico : April 19th, 2009-22:51
As a Pilot watch lover, I specially loved to see these ancesters of our modern Senator Navigators! Thanks a lot, Martin! A post to save, IMHO. Best, Nicolas

A very special note of thanks to Martin . . .

 
 By: Dr No : April 19th, 2009-23:52
. . . for sharing his experience and appreciation of Glashütte - both the manufacturer and the city - with us. We've gotten to know you through your many posts over the past few months, and your insightful technical expertise has been most appreciate... 

Why the reversed markings?

 
 By: MTF : April 20th, 2009-10:19
Martin, Did you find out why there were reversed "mirror image" dial markings on this watch? Does it look the right way round in a mirror for some indirect observation? Regards, MTF...  

You are right

 
 By: stromer : April 20th, 2009-13:54
Hi MTF, this is indeed an extremely interesting watch. As far as I could find out, 22 of these watches were supplied in 1943 by A.Lange to the Waffen-SS, a special forces unit known in first place for their cruelty and inhumanity but also for weapon devel... 

thank you Martin...

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 20th, 2009-16:25
for this interesting piece of history and of course you research You re right about the ss symbol and you can just make it out best regards

One more thing

 
 By: stromer : April 20th, 2009-14:05
I forgot to mention: The German watch making company ARISTO today offers this watch called SEXTANT. However it has a diameter of 44mm instead of the original 65! Best regards and read you, Martin...  

are these...

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 20th, 2009-16:29
easily found? cheers

Hard for me to tell

 
 By: stromer : April 20th, 2009-23:49
I cannot remember having seen an ARISTO watch in nature, but maybe I just did not notice. Here in Germay you would most probably find them in the watch department of a department store. (I can speak only about Germany because I no experience how the watch... 

thank you cheers nt

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 21st, 2009-03:39

Thanks Martin for a great tour. [nt]

 
 By: Jocke - Bad Santa : April 20th, 2009-11:24
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Thank you Martin for such a great look (and look again) at Dresden

 
 By: timerider : April 20th, 2009-15:18
and Glashutte. You have a very engaging photographic eye and words to match. Much appreciated. Best, Tim

Thanks for sharing.

 
 By: Davo : April 20th, 2009-18:47
Looks like a good old time. I really enjoyed all the pics. Cheers.

You make me want to go there.

 
 By: watchuknow : April 20th, 2009-22:58
Wonderful post.

Martin, what a great pair of gifts you've given us with these posts.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 20th, 2009-23:19
A trip to see Glashutte and Dresden is definitely going to be in my future. Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us. Best, Jed

Great Post

 
 By: mikethw : April 21st, 2009-05:15
The MB watch is really interesting. Thank you for explaining the details and function of this watch.

Another great post!

 
 By: Peter  : April 21st, 2009-05:48
Thks for sharing

Excellent posts!

 
 By: 1440 : April 22nd, 2009-16:03
Thank you very much for taking the trouble to put these together. Cheers, Al

Thank you so much for sharing your great impressions, Martin!

 
 By: GP&MP : April 23rd, 2009-13:39
We hope that you will accept our apology for our late response. After a couple of very, very busy days without visiting the forum, we found your marvelous reports. Thank you so much for your words and pics!!! It is quite easy to recognize that you enjoyed... 

Extremely late reply....

 
 By: BluNotte : February 18th, 2010-05:54
But nonetheless, one that is a must! Danke Schoen for the superb tour! Stephen

Thanks Martin! I made up my mind...

 
 By: SamEE : April 24th, 2011-12:38
I am going to Glashutte one of these days! It is a beautiful city, full of a great history of our favorite hobby. Thanks for the link so that I could enjoy part two of your trip! Cheers SamEE

a great read

 
 By: playtime : April 24th, 2011-19:00
thank you so very much J