Indeed! My crazy thoughts have gotten even more extreme!

Sep 23, 2023,17:04 PM
 

The movement is still not as robust as a Submariner watch though. And the lack of date - while more aesthetically pleasing, is a small danger. If I were stranded on a deserted island (who knows, this may be a paradise) I would still want a Submariner as my watch - preferably with date since I'd need to keep track of the date. Plus, both watches have true water resistance which is helpful for fishing, island activities, etc.
After that, the larger rotor of the Nautilus 5711 and the date is practical - large rotors wind more reliably. Although the Nautilus movement is not as reliable as the Rolex movement. The Nautilus also has a short power reserve - there will be inevitable times that you will be sick - and if you need to tell the time, a 48 hour power reserve might be too short. The Nautilus 5711/1A has 120M water resistance! The 5712 only has 60m water resistance - which means you cannot go swimming in it! BUT! The water resistance on the Nautilus is a little more finicky due to the use of an exposed rubber seal under compression (between the bezel and the case) and while the crown is screw down, there are no other fancy gasket systems inside the the crown system (Rolex has a special double/triple gasket system where at least one of the gaskets is always under special pressure even when the crown is open).
Due to the Nautilus' rubber components being exposed, it is more likely to experience degradation and thus, there are greater risks.
The Chopard Alpine Eagle XPS however has a few other advantages. It has 100m water resistance and no exposed rubber seal. The crown doesn't have any fancy seal mechanism like the Rolex however (JLC also used this system in some of their Master Compressor watches where they compress an O-Ring to maximize water resistance - a somewhat similar concept as the Rolex). The Alpine Eagle XPS' movement is the 96 series which if memory serves me winds bi-directionally, this is notable and significant since most micro rotors tend to wind only in one direction (for example, Patek's 240 caliber, a micro rotor used in the 5712, only winds in the counter-clockwise direction). The Alpine Eagle also only needs 800 rotations a day to wind the watch fully, and it has a fairly long power reserve of approximately 65 hours. This might be a great watch to wear as a casual watch at the tennis club, a watch to dress up for nice evening dinners and shows in the city, a watch to wear while on holiday on a beach and swimming, and a watch to be worn at the office. The James Bond watch! Plus you can get stuck on an island with it! I'd take it over a Nautilus 5712 for sure if I was going to get stuck on an island - although I'd wish it had a date.


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I’m beyond ecstatic to announce yet again another Alpine πŸ¦… XPS has landed!

 
 By: Mach : September 22nd, 2023-19:42
Work has been a little crazy lately. Spent the last two weeks at a client engagement in Cartagena, Columbia with no wrist companions! Last Wednesday, I was totally shocked when I received a text stating my AE XPS had arrived!πŸ˜† I finally had the opportunit...  

What What What?

 
 By: patrick_y : September 22nd, 2023-19:49
Didn't you just put the order in just a couple of months ago???? How did you get yours so quick??? BIIIIIGGG Congrats! Super congrats to you! Bravo! So happy for you!

Seek and ye shall find...ask and ye shall receive : )

 
 By: mdg : September 22nd, 2023-19:59
The point is, it never hurts to ask...

If I recall correctly...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 22nd, 2023-20:10
I think I put my order in before Mach did, and I was told to wait until late next year. Either way!!! I'm so happy for you Mach! This probably also means mine will come in sooner than I expect. Maybe they meant end of this year? No.... Anyways... I can wa... 

An embarrassment of riches...

 
 By: mdg : September 22nd, 2023-20:27
...would love to see it when it shows up. I hope it is soon : )

Awww...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 22nd, 2023-21:13
This is a safe place. We can discuss our embarrassment of riches! Will definitely show it to you in person when it comes!

Thanks again, Patrick!πŸ₯‚

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-00:14
I was told end of this year / early next year. I had truly prepared myself mentally for 1st quarter 2024. This was beyond unbelievable! Hopefully, this means an early delivery for your piece and others (Michael and anyone else I’m missing)!🀞 Once again, C... 

πŸ‘

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-01:44

Quite possibly!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 23rd, 2023-02:09
Maybe I went to a more "Crowded" store. Although Mach went to NYC store, which I would imagine is pretty crowded? Hmm... Who knows... Miami and Southern California are more beach-weather places, maybe the NYC store had less clients after this watch due to... 

I'm not worried!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 23rd, 2023-02:10
I've got watches coming out of my ears!

πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-02:12

March 29th is when I requested an allocation . . ,

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-00:05
Less than six months, you will hear no complaints from me. But I had been developing a relationship with my SA over the years. I came close to the blue AE a few times. But he knows I’m a serious collector! But I should also thank you as well. I was initia... 

You're MOST welcome!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 23rd, 2023-02:07
Yes, the price is definitely fair. This watch is equivalent to a Patek Philippe 5711 in many ways except there's no date and it's a petite seconds vs a center sweep seconds. Other than that, the watches are on the same level. Especially finishing, they're... 

Crossing my fingers!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 23rd, 2023-02:51

I agree with Patrick

 
 By: MilDiver : September 23rd, 2023-04:59
This watch, unlike many others, is a watch which tops 5711/12 in every aspect of quality and finishing while retaining the durability of a submariner as a daily watch (lets ignore scratches...). something you can't expect from AP RO for example...

Indeed! My crazy thoughts have gotten even more extreme!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 23rd, 2023-17:04
The movement is still not as robust as a Submariner watch though. And the lack of date - while more aesthetically pleasing, is a small danger. If I were stranded on a deserted island (who knows, this may be a paradise) I would still want a Submariner as m... 

Merci, Nico!πŸ₯‚

 
 By: Mach : September 22nd, 2023-23:49

Most probably!

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2023-06:30

What I wondered, too.

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2023-06:30

Welcome in the XPS nest

 
 By: nemul : September 22nd, 2023-20:21
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And one more! Bravo!

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2023-06:30

This is almost impossible for the other β€œfamous” brands and once again prove to collectors Chopard is sincere and commendable.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : September 22nd, 2023-20:37
Big congrats Mach! Well done, Chopard πŸ™ŒπŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

Looking forward to your future posting of it! πŸ˜‰

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : September 23rd, 2023-00:35

Holy smoke!

 
 By: Aquaracer1 : September 22nd, 2023-21:20
Congrats Mark! πŸŽŠπŸŽ‰πŸŽˆ Enjoy that beauty!

Thank you, Jesse!πŸ₯‚

 
 By: Mach : September 22nd, 2023-23:53

Great watch

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : September 23rd, 2023-00:39
And cappuccinos! We need a WPS version 😁

Thanks, my friend!πŸ₯‚

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-01:25
I let you lead the efforts to lobby for a WPS AE!πŸ˜‰

Nice photos

 
 By: sschew : September 23rd, 2023-02:26
Congrats on a lovely watch

Great , "grand" watch :-)

 
 By: MilDiver : September 23rd, 2023-05:05
IMO one of the really "bargains" in the market (as long as you can call 20K watch a bargain) . But, a watch with top level movement, not only quality and finishing, but innovation and "smart". this movement is designed to work like a daily beater. Thin ca... 

The Eagle has certainly landed!

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : September 23rd, 2023-08:25
Fantastic, and huge congrats!!!

Cheers, Tom!πŸ₯‚

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-14:57

Huge congratulations!πŸŽŠπŸŽˆπŸŽ‰

 
 By: Pretty Boy : September 23rd, 2023-09:52
I’m sure you will love it. Best, V.

Yes! Congratulations Mark!!

 
 By: MichaelC : September 23rd, 2023-13:15
Could not be more excited for you! What a nice reward after the 2 week trip down South. I'll venture to guess you might never go 2 weeks without having that gorgeous Eagle upon your wrist! May you wear it for many years to come in the best of health

Thanks, Michael! You are probably 100% correct!😁

 
 By: Mach : September 23rd, 2023-15:04
Hopefully, you don’t have to wait much longer for your piece!🀞HAGWE!πŸ₯‚

Congratulations!

 
 By: jmpTT : September 27th, 2023-17:30
I'm quite happy to learn that you didn't have to play games to acquire this stunning watch. Hopefully a reminder that it is more satisfying to look where others do not.